Le Havre - Porto - Madrid - Rome - Venice - Vienna - etc

engineer_tom
Traveller
25 comments

Ok just actually went through train availablities on [ux]https://rail.shop/bahn[/ux] (so useful) and found the route wasn't going to work. after a few tweaks (mainly skipping Spain and Munich whilst adding in Copenhagen) I got a route that will work.

Night 0 Ferry to Le Havre
Day 1 Le Havre/Normandy
Night 1 Travel to Geneva
Day 2 Geneva
Night 2 Travel to Rome
Day 3 Rome travel to venice evening
Night 3 Venice
Day 4 Venice
Night 4 travel to Vienna
Day 5 Vienna afternoon to Budapest
Night 5 Budapest
Day 6 Budapest
Night 6 travel to Warsaw
Day 7 Warsaw
Night 7 Warsaw
Day 8 Warsaw
Night 8 travel to Berlin
Day 9 Berlin
Night 9 Travel to Copenhagen
Day 10 Copenhagen
Night 10 Copenhagen
Day 11 Travel to Hamburg
Night 11 Hamburg
Day 12 Travel to Amsterdam
Night 12 Amsterdam
Day 13 Amsterdam
Night 13 Amsterdam
Day 14 travel to Paris early
Night 14 Paris
Day 15 Travel to Le Havre in afternoon
Night 15 ferry to Portsmouth

15 Days
12 Cities
9 Countries

Flo
Traveller
10724 comments

Hi,

a trip like yours is definitely feasible, although it actually might be a bit much for a first timer. Anyway, if you want to, just do it. You should adjust some parts of your planned route though. ;)

Night 1: How have you planned to go to Geneve overnight? There are no night trains from anywhere to the city. The only way I could imagine to travel overnight would be Le Havre - Paris - Köln - Basel - Geneve, but this would be complicated and would take quite long as well.

Night 2: Again, what connection have you planned? Geneve - Milano, then night train to Roma would be possible.

Night 8: Not sensible/feasible overnight.

So you still need a bit of rearraning your route. While you are doing this you might think about going with the 10in22 or the 15 continuous pass...I think you should try to plan around the 10in22 since it is much cheaper and your route probably will somehow work with it as well. :)

Questions? Just ask. ;)

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engineer_tom
Traveller
25 comments

Hi,

Night 1 is going to be Paris Austerlitz to Aix-les-Bains-le-Revard (Couchette train) then regional express into Geneva in the morning.
Night 2 is via Milan yes.
Night 8 I had as a night train from Warszawa Centralnathe to Szczecin Glowny then from there had a number of options onwards to Berlin.

I have also fine tuned the route to get more time in certain cities.

Night 0 Ferry to Le Havre
Day 1 Le Havre/Normandy
Night 1 Travel to Geneva
Day 2 Geneva
Night 2 Travel to Rome
Day 3 Rome
Night 3 Rome
Day 4 Travel to Venice in the evening
Night 4 Venice
Day 5 Venice
Night 5 Travel to Vienna
Day 6 Travel to Budapest in the afternoon
Night 6 Budapest
Day 7 Budapest
Night 7 Travel to Warsaw
Day 8 Warsaw
Night 8 Warsaw
Day 9 Warsaw
Night 9 Travel to Berlin
Day 10 Berlin
Night 10 Travel to Copenhagen
Day 11 Copenhagen
Night 11 Copenhagen
Day 12 Travel to Amsterdam
Night 12 Amsterdam
Day 13 Amsterdam
Night 13 Amsterdam
Day 14 Travel to Paris in the morning
Night 14 Paris
Day 15 Travel to Le Havre in the afternoon
Night 15 Ferry to

Looking at it a 10 in 22 with a bit of fine tuning could well the best option, though I won't be able to take advantage of the extra days due to a lack time off work.

Tom

Peter
Traveller
9333 comments

Hi Tom.
Just some thoughts not taking care now on the number of your travel days ... ;)
I personally think Venice is nice, but full of tourists (and therefore expensive). I always enjoyed the city when arriving in the early morning there before all the people are on the streets - then it is nice. :)
Instead of staying 2 or 3 nights in Venice, think about to continue to Slovenia (border crossing like explained here: [u]https://rail.cc/blog/travel-lake-bled-train/[/u]) and then to visit Lake Bled ([u]https://rail.cc/en/bled/c[/u]).
From Bled continue to Vienna.

And on your way from Budapest to Poland, think about a stop in Krakow ... if you skip Warsaw, you could travel Budapest-Krakow by night train and then Krakow-Prague by night train from where you continue to Berlin.

Like I said, only some thoughts... as it is still time until you start... :)

Peter :)

Flo
Traveller
10724 comments

Ah, alright, I didnt think of the night train from Paris, good idea! :)

I also didnt think of the option via Szczecin, very nice!

engineer_tom
Traveller
25 comments

Finally hammered out all the kinks and been able to plan using the actual dates as the time tables have been updated.
And here it is:

Night 0 Ferry to Le Havre
Day 1 Le Havre/Normandy
Night 1 Travel to Geneva
Day 2 Geneva
Night 2 Travel to Rome
Day 3 Rome
Night 3 Rome
Day 4 Travel to Venice in the evening
Night 4 Venice
Day 5 Venice
Night 5 Travel to Vienna
Day 6 Travel to Budapest in the afternoon
Night 6 Budapest
Day 7 Budapest
Night 7 Travel to Warsaw
Day 8 Warsaw
Night 8 Warsaw
Day 9 Warsaw
Night 9 Travel to Berlin
Day 10 Berlin
Night 10 Travel to Copenhagen
Day 11 Copenhagen
Night 11 Travel to Amsterdam
Day 12 Amsterdam
Night 12 Amsterdam
Day 13 Amsterdam
Night 13 Amsterdam
Day 14 Travel to Paris in the morning
Night 14 Paris
Day 15 Travel to Caen in the afternoon
Night 15 Ferry to Portsmouth

For those of you interested in the exact route:

Portsmouth Fr, 28.06.13 dep 23:00
Travel Time 09:00
Le Havre Sa, 29.06.13 arr 08:00
Transfer Time 08:40
Le Havre Sa, 29.06.13 dep 16:40
Travel Time 01:30
Rouen-Rive-Droite Sa, 29.06.13 arr 18:10
Transfer Time 00:13
Rouen-Rive-Droite Sa, 29.06.13 dep 18:23
Travel Time 01:02
Mantes La Jolie Sa, 29.06.13 arr 19:25
Transfer Time 00:15
Mantes La Jolie Sa, 29.06.13 dep 19:40
Travel Time 00:57
Paris St Lazare Sa, 29.06.13 arr 20:37
Transfer Time 02:35
Paris Austerlitz Sa, 29.06.13 dep 23:12
Travel Time 06:41
Aix-les-Bains-le-Revard Su, 30.06.13 arr 05:53
Transfer Time 03:02
Aix-les-Bains-le-Revard Su, 30.06.13 dep 08:55
Travel Time 01:02
Geneve Su, 30.06.13 arr 09:57
Transfer Time 08:45
Geneve Su, 30.06.13 dep 18:42
Travel Time 03:53
Milano Centrale Su, 30.06.13 arr 22:35
Transfer Time 00:45
Milano Porta Garibaldi Su, 30.06.13 dep 23:17
Travel Time 08:00
Roma Tiburtina Mo, 01.07.13 arr 07:17
Transfer Time 32:38
Roma Termini Tu, 02.07.13 dep 15:50
Travel Time 03:45
Venezia Santa Lucia Tu, 02.07.13 arr 19:35
Transfer Time 25:22
Venezia Santa Lucia We, 03.07.13 dep 20:57
Travel Time 11:11
Wien Westbahnhof Th, 04.07.13 arr 08:08
Transfer Time 09:40
Wien Westbahnhof Th, 04.07.13 dep 17:48
Travel Time 03:01
Budapest-Keleti Th, 04.07.13 arr 20:49
Transfer Time 23:16
Budapest-Keleti Fr, 05.07.13 dep 20:05
Travel Time 11:00
Warszawa Centralna Sa, 06.07.13 arr 07:05
Transfer Time 40:15
Warszawa Centralna Su, 07.07.13 dep 23:20 
Travel Time 06:43
Szczecin Glowny Mo, 08.07.13 arr 06:03 
Transfer Time 00:08
Szczecin Glowny Mo, 08.07.13 dep 06:11
Travel Time 01:45
Berlin Gesundbrunnen Mo, 08.07.13 arr 07:56
Transfer Time 16:36
Berlin Hbf Tu, 09.07.13 dep 00:32 
Travel Time 09:35
Koebenhavn H Tu, 09.07.13 arr 10:07 
Transfer Time 08:39
Koebenhavn H Tu, 09.07.13 dep 18:46 
Travel Time 15:13
Amsterdam Centraal We, 10.07.13 arr 09:59 
Transfer Time 46:20
Amsterdam Centraal Fr, 12.07.13 dep 08:19
Travel Time 03:16
Paris Nord Fr, 12.07.13 arr 11:35
Transfer Time 30:10
Paris St Lazare Sa, 13.07.13 dep 17:45
Travel Time 02:16
Caen Sa, 13.07.13 arr 20:01
Transfer Time 02:59
Caen Sa, 13.07.13 dep 23:00
Travel Time 07:45
Portsmouth Su, 14.07.13 arr 06:45

This is going to be one insane trip, gonna have to think of something to better it for next year.

Flo
Traveller
10724 comments

Le Havre - Paris seems a bit awkward with changes in Rouen and Mantes-la-Jolie; there should be a direct train at that time as well, dep 1703, arr 1912

There is a SNCF bus service La Roche sur Foron - Genève where rail tickets are valid, allowing this connection: Paris dep 2312 - 0738 arr La Roche sur Foron dep 0812 - 0912 Genève Eaux Vives

Do you really want to go with Thalys from Amsterdam to Paris? The reservation is 39€...