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robroy2008
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Posted 13 years ago

Hello :D ,
was wondering if this is over ambitious,im 40 something :| interailer,im looking to start a Big trip through Europe,i was looking @ 10/22 global flexi pass,the cities ive chosen are the ones i really want to see,i have travelled quite a bit through the years but nothing like this!!!lol
please can i have your opinion on this itenary,i plan to stay in hostals,not really bothered about night life ,partying,boozing etc etc(done it all years ago and may i add enjoyed every minute of it!!!!lol)so really i am focused on much sight seeing as possible...

fly frm scotland and stay in copenhagen for a few days..
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copenhagen-berlin(3 days)overnight via malmo.
berlin-prague(2 days)
prague-munich (2 days)
munich-venice (2 days)
venice-rome (2 days)
rome-nice (5 days)visits to canne,monaco
nice-barcelona(3 days)
barcelona-madrid(3 days)
any help would be greatly appreiciated
and thankyou in advance....

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Flo
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replied 13 years ago

Hi!

Looks like a nice trip, the 10in22 should be just the suitable option for this. You might even think to add another stop en route, or head back home again by train instead of plane.

Cost wise the pass is certainly a good idea, if you make 10 travels, each one is 36,90€ (plus some reservations), which will be hard to beat (and much more complicated) with regular tickets bought well in advance.

Kobenhavn - Berlin: :arr: [u]https://rail.cc/en/train/copenhagen-to-berlin[/u]
Berlin - Praha: :arr: [u]https://rail.cc/en/train/berlin-to-prague[/u]
Praha - München: :arr: [u]https://rail.cc/en/train/prague-to-munich[/u]
München - Venezia: :arr: [u]https://rail.cc/en/train/munich-to-venice[/u]
Venezia - Roma: :arr: [u]https://rail.cc/en/train/venice-to-rome[/u]
Roma - Nice: :arr: [u]https://rail.cc/en/train/rome-to-nice[/u]
Nice - Barcelona: :arr: [u]https://rail.cc/en/train/nice-to-barcelona[/u]
Barcelona - Madrid: :arr: [u]https://rail.cc/en/train/barcelona-to-madrid[/u]

Please note that there is a timetable change in mid-december; if you are travelling after that date, you can already plan with the above connections - but please check again after we have updated the connections (what we will do over the Christmas period).
Also, the connections mentioned are only some examples which we selected as they are nice routes for InterRailers, you can look for alternatives with the travel planners online :arr: [u]https://rail.cc/en/search-interrail-route[/u]

Total ticket cost estimate:

369€ 10in22 IR ticket
19€ couchette reservation Malmö - Berlin night train
25€ couchette reservation München - Venezia night train or 7€ supplement for day train
10€ reservation for fast train Venezia - Roma
10€ reservation (depending on chosen connection) on the Roma - Nice route
10€ reservation for AVE Barcelona - Madrid

Total: 443€

You can buy your ticket and most reservations at our partner - thank you! :)
:arr: [u]https://rail.cc/en/search-train-route[/u]

If you have any other questions, just ask. :)


Flo 8)

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robroy2008
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replied 13 years ago

Hi Flo,
many many thanks for your help,i must say i am so glad that i came over this fantastic site,and yes when i look more into my trip i will definetly be buying my ticket from your goodselves.
thankyou once again and will probably be back with more questions :|

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Flo
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replied 13 years ago

You're welcome!

Just ask here if you have any troubles or questions regarding your journey. :)

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robroy2008
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replied 13 years ago

Hi Flo,
told i would be back :D ,
could you suggest please another stop en route that would work with my itenary(a wildcard would be nice) :D ,also you suggest i take the train back home,im a little confused on that one :| ,i had tallied up my 10 days travel within 22 days and if i have done my calculations properly,my 22 days would end in madrid,your advice would be greatly appreciated :)

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Flo
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replied 13 years ago

- Well, Vienna could be interesting for a quick stop - then I'd suggest to go Praha - München - Wien (all during the day) and then with the night train to Venezia.
Or how about the Swiss Alps? However, this probably would be a little more complicate to integrate if you want to go to Venezia afterwards.
Then, another option would be the Petit Train Jaune :arr: [u]https://rail.cc/en/train/villefranche-de-conflent-to-latour-de-carol[/u] on the way to Barcelona
If you like Italy, you could make stops en route for instance in Firenze, or along the Cinque Terre.

- Regarding going home by train. I calculated with only 8 travel days so far, since you could buy regular tickets to explore the Côte d'Azur (Nice - Cannes, Nice - Monaco are really short distances and not worth using a full travel day of your pass, especially if you could use it to add another city elsewhere).
What I was thinking of could look like this:
Travel to Madrid as planned, eight travel days used (assumed you buy regular tickets for the short legs Kobenhavn - Malmö and around Nice). Travel to Paris with either one (during the day or with expensive Elipsos night train) or two (during the night with cheap Lunéa night train) of your left travel days :arr: [u]https://rail.cc/en/train/madrid-to-paris[/u]
In case you opt for the solution with only one travel day you would still have one left which you could use for the Kobenhavn - Malmö leg for instance.
Depending on your budget (time and money) ;) you could then either stay in Paris or proceed to the UK; fastest way would be with Eurostar to London, more interesting however would be the ferry Calais - Dover.

Of course this is just a suggestion since I'm not overly fond of travelling by plane. ;)


Flo 8)

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robroy2008
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replied 13 years ago

Hello Again!!lol
thankyou once again for your advice,
do you mean berlin-prague-munich-wein(for how long?) and get the night train from wein to venice?,also do mean madrid -paris on a night train,could you please send me the link for these,
again many many thanks for your input :)

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Flo
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replied 13 years ago

[quote]
do you mean berlin-prague-munich-wein(for how long?) and get the night train from wein to venice?[/quote]

Yup. Night train :arr: [u]https://rail.cc/en/night-train/vienna-venice-en-237/96[/u]
How long? Well, one or two days I'd say. Depends on your overall schedule - you should be able to fit in Wien (or any other extra stop) if you cut one or two days around Nice for example - since although the Côte d'Azur is really nice I dont think you need 5 days for it. I've been to Monaco in 2009 and we only spent about half a day there. Had a walk along the F1 track and that's about it what you can do there IMO. ;)

I've posted the link with all the options you have for Madrid - Paris in my above post.

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robroy2008
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replied 13 years ago

Hi Flo :) your worst nightmare back again!!! :| ,
i must say before i found your site it was all very daunting,but since finding it it now is starting to make a lot of sense and now looking at this with more excitment and vigeour.
i wonder if you could now look at my changed itenary to see if it seems ok (a few small changes)!!lol..

fly to kopenhagen (3 days)

validate to berlin (night train) 3 days
prague(day train) 2 days
munich(day train) 2 days
wein (day train) 2 days
venice (night train)2 days
rome (day train) 2 days
nice 3 days(using point to point tickets for canne,monaco etc
barcelona(day train) 3 days
madrid (day train) 3 days
paris (night train)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------would i be right in saying that if i took the expensive train from madrid to paris then i would have a extra travel day that i could use for kopenhagen-malmo
or just pay for point to point frm kopenhagen - malmo
and get the cheaper train from madrid to paris and that would use up all my travel days????

hope this makes sense!!!lol...
thankyou...

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Peter
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replied 13 years ago

Just a short reply: don't use a travel day for Malmö - Copenhagen. Single train tickets available for around EUR 12. :)

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robroy2008
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replied 13 years ago

so i still have a extra travel day to use up if i just bought sngl ticket from khagen to malmo?
thankyou...

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Flo
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replied 13 years ago

Humm...well with this schedule you'd need 9 travel days up to Madrid. So, that leaves you with only two possiblities to go to Paris with the one remaining day:

- Day train (with connection in Hendaye)
- Direct expensive night train

Still a little complicated... :D

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robroy2008
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replied 13 years ago

Hello Again,
i have made a few changes and wondered if it makes sense to you :| , i think i have got it right!!lol..
malmo night
berlin day 3 days
prague day 2 days
munich day 2 days
wein day 2 days
venice night 2 days
rome day 2 days
nice day 2 days
barcelona day 2 days
seville day 2 days
madrid to paris (end) stay in madrid 2 days...would i still be able to use night train to paris frm madrid?
any help would be greatly appreiciated again!!!lol
best wishes
steven...

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robroy2008
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replied 13 years ago

hello again i would be willing to leave out wein and go frm munich to venice and i think that would allow me to take lunea train frm madrid to paris???
regards..

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Flo
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replied 13 years ago

Well,

if you leave out Wien you'll need 9 travel days to get to Madrid - so nothing has changed...you cant take Lunéa in that case.
For Madrid - Paris with Lunéa you need two travel days.

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robroy2008
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replied 13 years ago

Arrgggghhh,i bet you hate me!!!lol,
so i can either pay for more expensive train to paris,or use my last travel day from madrid to paris via Hendaye!!lol
reagrds
steven.. :D

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Flo
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replied 13 years ago

No problem! ;)

Of course you could get a regular ticket for one of the other legs as well.

Cheapest option in that case probably would be either )Berlin - Praha, Praha - München or Venezia - Roma

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robroy2008
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replied 13 years ago

Flow
many many thanks again...YOU ARE A STAR!! :D

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Flo
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replied 13 years ago

Haha, thanks! ;)

If you decide to go with that option, tell me early enough and we can figure out the best and cheapest option how to get it.

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robroy2008
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replied 13 years ago

Hello again :) ,
just a little confused about something else!!!lol
you say dont use a travel day kopenhagen-malmo!!
if i was getting the night train from malmo to berlin,say my pass was validated to start 1st may for example,would i not be able to use the pass that day to malmo frm kopenhagen to catch the night train frm malmo to berlin,any help would be greatly appreiciated.
kind regards
steven :D

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Peter
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replied 13 years ago

Hi Steven.
The 1900h-rule is only for DIRECT night trains. It is already a kind of present helping you saving travel days, but you can't use it to catch the night train on the route Copenhagen - Malmö.
[u]https://rail.cc/en/interrail-night-train[/u]
You can use the night train starting the 1st in Malmö, fill in the 2nd as your travel day - then you can use the direct night train Malmö - Berlin and it counts as only one of your travel days. If you want, you can continue traveling the whole day from Berlin to where ever as you filled in the 2nd as travel day.
You wanted to use the rule in reverse which is not possible.
Peter :)

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Flo
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replied 13 years ago

Hi Steven,

the thing is this:

- For the Malmö - Berlin night train you can make use of the 1900 rule for night trains - for further details on this rule please have a look here :arr: [u]https://rail.cc/en/interrail-night-train[/u]
- This means that your IR pass has to be valid already on the day you are leaving Kobenhavn/Malmö for Berlin. But, and this is important, you will have to enter the following day in your pass to make use of the 1900-rule. As a consequence you will have to get a regular ticket from Kobenhavn to Malmö even though your IR pass is active already.


Flo 8)

EDIT: Peter was faster ;)

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robroy2008
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replied 13 years ago

:) :) :) :) ,Thankyou to both of you for replying,
read both and both made sense to me!!!lol
1 other thing may i add,i have been playing about trying to make pass resevations,when i comes up sorry you have to call number!!is this number your goodselves???. :|
kind regards
steven..

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Peter
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replied 13 years ago

No it isn't. It is a ticket outlet.
If a reservation is not possible, you will have to buy it at a railway station. Which reservation you want exactly?

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robroy2008
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replied 13 years ago

im sorry i think you picked it up wrong,i wasnt trying to make reservations,because i am new to interrailing i was trying out different things re trying out making reservations etc etc..
kind regards
steven..