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Rainbow-Bow
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Posted 2 weeks ago

All routes are suggesting to go through Russia. However, that is not possible.

Is there ANY way to go around Russia?

Please help!

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nltrainer
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replied 2 weeks ago

There is-but I repeat as there were 2 same-same Qs about doing LON/EUr to SIN(gapore) very recent-just scroll down, it is only do/advise-able for those with enough travel experience, not afraid for the unusual and having plenty of time. Since then I learnt there seems to be a ´(un/)social-media´ hype of doing this all overland and even some organised small-group trying to accomplish this.
The best site/forum for the latest info on it is caravanistan.com. Obviously it should go via those ´stan'countries, split off from the grand old mother Soviet-Union years ago, and then into China. To get into those its either via Turkey->Iran (also not really open for some) OR a Black-Sea across ´ferry´ toward UZbekistan. Its also NOT all train all the way-Kazak-> Mongolia/China is for a long part BUS only.
Another site, mentioned on this slowly dying forum (we are often surprised as to how people still land on it) with mapped out plans is seat61.com.
Another hurdle to take for you is going to South-Korea from CHina without entering the North reigned by some old-time surviving dictator. I guess there may be some ferries from China.
Also DO take a very serious look-depends on your undisclosed nationality- about any VISA you may need to pass all those countries.
Good luck with it!

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MisterSteve
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replied 2 weeks ago

Have you heard of flying???? Don't go all eco on us, the long drawn out alternatives all cause pollution and in a large part of the route put addtional pressure on infrasctructure (including water supplies) that can barely cope with normal demands.

The brutal truth is that even before Russia was taken over by Putin's gang it was never possible to go to Korea overland. Travel in China is actually quite easy but South Korea is cut off by land from any other country, leaving the ferries (including from Japan) as the way in, and their record on air pollution isn't good.