gingaman5890
Traveller
6 comments
Posted 13 years ago
Hi all,
So I've travelled using Interrail before but only in France, so it was a 1 country pass, relatively stress-free, minus all those obnoxious supplements and transfers. Anyways, now I am doing a route from Madrid to Venice which stops at Paris as the midpoint. So my question is:
Can I get away with a two country pass in this situation??? Because I only intend to travel through Spain and Italy. Paris just happens to be the midpoint. Btw, yes there is another route that goes through Barcelona, but it's several hours longer so if I could get away with a two country pass that would save me A LOT OF TIME. (Price-wise I think its the same if not too much more). I'll take whichever route, but preferably the Barcelona one my way back to Madrid. Those are the 2 countries I would like to use my pass for, Italy and Spain. Plus, seeing Paris for a few hours before I transfer would be nice. There's something about it :)
Please help me out!! I really dont want to get a 3 country pass especially when the third country's only for a few hours for a transfer...
Cheers,
Daniel
Flo
Traveller
10724 comments
Hi Daniel,
there are no 2 country or 3 country passes anymore from InterRail. Only Global Passes or One Country Passes. Have a look at the different options here :arr: [ux]https://rail.shop/interrail[/ux]
You can buy all passes directly at our partner at :arr: [u]https://rail.cc/en/search-train-route[/u] to directly support all our work here, thank you. :)
How long are you going to travel? Maybe a 5in10 Global Pass would be a good option for you? Are you Spanish citizen - do not forget that InterRail is not valid in your country of residence.
There are already many route suggestions in the railcc database, have a look at Madrid - Paris :arr: [u]https://rail.cc/en/train/madrid-to-paris[/u] and Paris - Venezia :arr: [u]https://rail.cc/en/train/paris-to-venice[/u]
Flo 8)
gingaman5890
Traveller
6 comments
Hey Flo, thanks for the answer. But, no I am not Spanish. I still retain my non-Eu citizenship and have legal residency status. So Interrail does still apply to me :) My travel dates are from the 7th to the 23rd. What would be my best option then? P.S. The Paris route is complicated, but the Madrid-Barcelona to VEnice route is every Thursday and Sunday. Tomorrow (thursday) is too soon for to me ot leave, so ideally I'd leave by Sunday. Please help me out again
Thanks again,
Daniel :D
Flo
Traveller
10724 comments
Hej Daniel,
well your citizenship in that case does not play the most important role: It is your residency.
Have a look at the rules for InterRail here :arr: [u]https://rail.cc/en/how-to-interrail[/u] So, if you have been living in Spain longer than the last six months your country of residence is Spain and you cannot use InterRail there - even if you have a non EU citizenship.
If you are travelling from 7th to 23rd, have a look at the 15continuous and 10in22 flexi passes :arr: [ux]https://rail.shop/interrail[/ux]
The Madrid - Barcelona - Venezia route that is running on certain days online probably is that including the Elipsos night train, very expensive reservation needed! :arr: [u]https://rail.cc/en/night-train/barcelona-milan-elipsos-1127/127[/u]
Are there any places on the way you'd like to visit? Or do you only want to go to Venezia?
Flo 8)
gingaman5890
Traveller
6 comments
Hey Flo,
First, you;ve been great with the responses. Very swift and comprehensive :D . For an American, that is a rarity nowadays. Moving along...So I've decided to go thru Barcelona instead of Paris because it is actually a little faster. However, I tried looking up the supplements. For Madrid to Barcelona, I know I will need a supplement, and I imagine for Barcelona to Torino as well right? The train is EN 11273...I cant seem to find it here (no routes for Torino). I just would like the quickest route to Venecia and apparently this is it, unless you could enlighten me of something else. here's what I have:
---Madrid Puerta Atocha to Barcelona Sants AVE 3153
(then some transfer to Estacion de Franca)
---Barcelona Estacion de Franca to Torino POrta Susa
---Torino Porta Susa to Bologna Centrale
---Bologna Centrale
to Venezia Santa Lucia, though I would really like to get off at Mestre, as it facilitates things for my friend picking up because there is construction on the road occurring in or around Santa Lucia station, so it's a no go for cars trying to pull into the station.
TOTAL TIME: 21 HOURS
In conclusion, I would just like to know what supplements I need. I plan on buying the Interrail flexi pass 10 in 22. Please let me know if there are faster/non-supplement routes :)
Thanks again!!! ||
gingaman5890
Traveller
6 comments
My God, that reservation for the Elipsos train is expensive. Is it more economically sound to go thru Paris instead even though it's several hours longer???
Flo
Traveller
10724 comments
Hej,
well I think we still have to sort out the residency issue I think?
If you are a Spanish resident (and it seems to me that you are), you can of course get an InterRail pass, but then you would need to get regular tickets for the part of the trip in Spain. However, if your US passport does not show any sign of you staying in Spain, you could also think about getting a EuRail pass, which would also cover the trip in Spain.
Anyhow, the fastest connection is certainly with the Elipsos:
- Madrid - Barcelona with AVE, 10€ reservation :arr: [u]https://rail.cc/en-type-country/alta-velocidad-espa%C3%B1ola/renfe-ave/23[/u]
- Barcelona - Milano with Elipsos, reservations starting at 50€ :arr: [u]https://rail.cc/en/night-train/barcelona-milan-elipsos-1127/127[/u]
- Milano - Venezia with ES City, 10€ reservation :arr: [u]https://rail.cc/en-type-country/eurostar-city/trenitalia-es-city/48[/u]
Schedule: [u]https://rail.cc/en/train/madrid-to-venice[/u]
It would be ~1h30 if you'd get off the Elipsos in Torino already and travel via Bologna but the connection time is rather short and you'd have to get two reservation for each 10€ for AV Torino - Bologna and AV Bolgona - Venezia.
Going through Paris might be cheaper overall, have a look at the links I gave you about Madrid - Paris and Paris - Venezia, the supplements are listed there (you migh have to click on the train category to see the supplements).
On the route via Barcelona, there is no real alternative to the Elipsos - as daytime travel would require several trains with reservations which would sum up to ~25€ - or you go completely supplement-free via Nice but this would include an overnight stay at the Côte d'Azur.
Flo 8)
gingaman5890
Traveller
6 comments
[u]https://rail.cc/en/train/milan-to-venice[/u]
Isn't this route ^^^^ supplement free? Because if I can save 10 euros, Ill take this route. It totals 60 euros (50 for overnight BArca train to Milan and Madrid to Barca 10 euros). Otherwise, Ill do the Paris route because its only 37 euros altogether in fees, even though its about 3-4 hours longer. (25 overnight paris to venice, and 6,50 two times from Madrid to Paris.) Again, please let me know as I'm this close to buying my tickets and commencing my journey :D
Flo
Traveller
10724 comments
Yup, you're correct. ;)
But, again my question: Are you resident of Spain? If yes, you will need regular tickets for the part until the Spanish border! :!:
gingaman5890
Traveller
6 comments
Lol sorry and no I am not officially a resident. I am here for the time being, with plans of getting things sorted out. However, as of now, my passport has not been filled out with anything yet :P Good for me, so the Interrail Global pass 10 in 22 flexi option seems the best for me. And, how does this 1900 night train rule apply? I would x out the 8th of August instead of the 7th?> I am planning to leave Madrid to Barcelona on the 7th this week for the 15h30 train from Puerta de Atocha.
Again, thanks for all your help. Though Paris is cheaper by 20 something euros, all the transfers are in different stations throughout Paris and I dont want to be running around with luggage. This Barcelona-Milan route is calmer and a bit faster :)
Flo
Traveller
10724 comments
Well, but you have to be resident of a European country to be eligible for InterRail!
If you want to travel with your US passport you have two options:
1) Get a EuRail pass > [ux]https://rail.shop/eurail[/ux]
2) If you want to get an InterRail pass you have to proof that you have stay at least the last six months in a European country. This country then is your country of residence in which InterRail only gives a certain discount (50% usually) for travel to the border and back
Flo 8)
gingaman5890
Traveller
6 comments
Okay, going for The Eurail pass...only your site does not let me ship to me to Spain, where I am currently located holding an American passport. If and if I do vice versa, changing my country of residence to Spain in the top right corner, I cant buy the Eurail Pass. I think then, I have to buy an Interrail, no?
Flo
Traveller
10724 comments
OK. :)
I think it is possible to ship the EuRail pass to Spain if you follow the instructions here :arr: [ux]https://rail.shop/interrail[/ux]
Otherwise ask Peter, who is the expert regarding all the details of the shop. ;)
Anyhow, if you want to leave on the 7th, you should hurry and I'd recommend to choose the express delivery to get your pass in time.
Have you already decided which kind of EuRail pass you are going to buy? I'd recommend a 3 countries select pass, depending on how much you want to travel around you can get it with 5, 6, 8 or 10 travel days.
Again, if you want to buy an InterRail pass you have to proof your current residency in Spain and then would need also regular tickets for travel in Spain.
Flo 8)
Peter
Traveller
9333 comments
Just a short update:
It is now no more possible to get an Eurail pass send to an European country as for license restrictions. Sorry. If we were allowed we would do it. :(
Weather it is no problem to get an Interrail pass send to an other country within Europe than the country of residence (just as information).
Peter