Hyperion
Traveller
4 comments
Posted 14 years ago
Hello everybody.
I'm planning a route from Trondheim, I have already choose my itinerary but now I have the typical question about the reservations and the night trains.
My plan is:
[b]10th November[/b]
Trondheim-Östersund D381
Östersund-Sundsvall R7625
Sundsvall-Ånge R7628
Ånge-Bräcke X2578
Bräcke-Kiruna NZ94
[b]11th November[/b]
Kiruna-Gällivare IC95
Gällivare-Luleå NZ93
[b]13th November[/b]
Luleå-Bräcke NZ7006 (departure at 19:57, so it counts like 14th November, isnt it?
[b]14th November[/b]
Bräcke-Östersund R7620
Östersund-Trondheim D384
Are you agree with me that it would be 3 inter-rail days? instead of 4 I say.
I can see that I will take 5 different trains: R, D,X,IC and NZ and I have the following questions:
I have looked in the veolia webpage and I have found that R and D does not need reservation. Is it true?
NZ trains need reservation and I have to buy also a seat?
X train needs reservation, is not it?
I have not found nothing about IC train, the only thing I know is that means InterCity.
And lastly, the first train I take is in Norway. Should I take another ticket from Trondheim to Norway-Sweden Frontier, is not it? and the same for the last day.
Please, help me with this.
Thank you very much
Hyperion
Flo
Traveller
10724 comments
Hi!
You are right, it is 3 InterRail days. And you will need additional tickets for the part in Norway (on both legs).
Since you are travelling with a One Country Pass there is no discount for Trondheim - Swedish border (you would get one with a Global Pass if you are a Norwegian resident).
You will need a ticket Trondheim - Storlien and retour.
- Why Sundsvall - Bräcke via Aange? You would have to buy a 7€ reservation for the X2 (X2 is the train category) - even if it's only some 18 minutes. And the NZ 94 stops in both Bräcke and Aange.
You will need reservations for the following trains:
- X2 578 (7€)
- NZ 94 :arr: [u]https://rail.cc/en/stockholm-narvik-night-train/f3837[/u]
- NZ 7006 as above
Flo 8)
Hyperion
Traveller
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Thank you flow for your fast answer!
So, with the One Country Pass there is no discount in another countries. Ok.
[quote]- Why Sundsvall - Bräcke via Aange? You would have to buy a 7€ reservation for the X2 (X2 is the train category) - even if it's only some 18 minutes. And the NZ 94 stops in both Bräcke and Aange.[/quote]
That is a good question that I ask myself. I can take 3 ways:
A) If I go from Sundsvall directly to Bräcke, I will have to be in that city near 5 hours. Take the NZ in Bräcke.
B) In the other hand, If I stop in Ånge, I will spend 2 hours in that city, I will take other train (X2) to Bräcke and I will be there 2 hours (the problem is that this train is IR+7€). Take the NZ in Bräcke
C) Lastly, I can stop in Ånge, be there for 4 hours and take the NZ there.
What do you recomend? 4 hours in Bräcke , 4 hours in Ånge or (2hours+2hours+7€) visiting 2 cities.
So, the only thing I have to have in mind is that I have to bring the reservation and the seat of those 3 NZ trains already bought in order to show them to the man of the train. Truth?
Thank you very much again
PS: It is my first IR !!
T
Flo
Traveller
10724 comments
How about option D: ;)
Sundsvall Central 1652 - 1912 Gävle Central :arr: X-Taget 8367, included in InterRail
Gävle Central 1953 - 0921 Kiruna Central :arr: NZ 94, as above
+ More time in Sundsvall
+ More time to sleep on the night train
- No possibility to visit Bräcke and Aange (but I think there wont be much worth to do.
Otherwise, just get your reservations for the night trains - either at a bigger NSB station or via bokatag.se and enjoy your trip! :)
Flo 8)
Hyperion
Traveller
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You are very friendly telling me a route D !!
Do you think that 1 more hour in Sundsvall is better that 4 hours in other town?
The first part of the question likes me, but If at least I could have more than half an hour in Gavle it would be perfect. At Gavle I would not be able to move away very far to the Station because I would be nervous for the NZ train. Furthermore, I think not walking since 16:52 in Sundsvall until 9:21 in Kiruna is too much. That is why I think is better to stop in Bräcke (at least) and walk.
But anyway, I am very grateful for your answer. Still being so cute!
Hyperion
Flo
Traveller
10724 comments
Other trains Sundsvall - Gävle:
1232 - 1452 :arr: free
or
1408 - 1603 :arr: 7€ reservation
I honestly think there aint much to do or see in Aange or Bräcke. And you'll be able to walk when you're on the train. Have a look at the buffet car to get some coffee, or just walk around a little if you feel to. I know there's not much to do on a train (especially when travelling alone) but you arent stuck on your seat. ;)
And if you travel the whole way Gävle - Kiruna I think it is worth considering travelling in a couchette.
Flo 8)
Hyperion
Traveller
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Hello again.
I have already the IR pass and I only have to do the reservation of one train.
For the other two NZ trains I have used the Veolia webpage (bokatag) and It works perfectly. But the last NZ train, the webpage says that Veolia does not runs with this train.
So, where can I do the reservation for the NZ93 Gällivare-Luleå the 11th of November at 18:42-21:04?
In the other hand, I have introduced again the data in the [ux]https://rail.shop/bahn[/ux] webpage and I have checked the Local transport box. And the sistem gives me another different train:
instead of the NZ93 train:
[quote]Gällivare station Th, 11.11.10 dep 18:42 NZ 93 Nachtzug Subject to compulsory reservation, 2nd class only
Luleaa Central Th, 11.11.10 arr 21:04[/quote]
it gives me:
[quote]Gällivare station Th, 11.11.10 dep 18:42 R 93 Regionalzug Subject to compulsory reservation, 2nd class only, Bordrestaurant
Boden Centralstation Th, 11.11.10 arr 20:35
Boden Centralstation Th, 11.11.10 dep 20:40 R 7007 Regionalzug 2nd class only
Luleaa Central Th, 11.11.10 arr 21:04[/quote]
What is the true train? the NZ or the two R trains ?
If the R trains exists, then is better for me, because I dont need a night train for an evening. And it will be cheaper.
Thank you for everything
Peter
Traveller
9333 comments
Hi.
It is a NZ train and as much as I know you will need a reservation for it (~ SEK 35 / ~ EUR 3,50).
Gällivare station dep: 1842 | NZ 93
Luleaa Central arr: 2104
Try the sj.se website directly.
Peter :)
Flo
Traveller
10724 comments
Hi!
I have not much time right now since I'm at university but it may be that you wont need a reservation for Gällivare - Lulea.
Both connections are the same train - it just serves two different purposes.
NZ 93 is the night train for overnight journeys to southern Sweden. The R 93 is the same train (as you can see from the identical number) but serves as a regional connection for the cities up north - same applies for the R 7007. I suspect you wont need a reservation for going only Gällivare - Lulea on NZ 93 since it isnt an overnight connection. :)
However, I cant give you a guarantee on that...maybe I can find more info but I'm not sure if that's possible in time for your journey. Maybe you can ask locally and then tell us their answer?
Flo 8)
Hyperion
Traveller
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Thank you. I thought so, but finally I have booked for the NZ93 train too. It was only 3,5€ and leaves me be sure and not worried about that.
So, I have all paper I need. I only have to make a good backpack.
I will tell you how it has gone when I go back.
Regards
Hyperion
Flo
Traveller
10724 comments
Enjoy your trip! :)
Flo 8)
Flo
Traveller
10724 comments
How did your trip work out? :)
Somethin I forgot... :os We went from Gällivare to Narvik with NZ 94 this summer and werent asked for a reservation... May be important for future travels. ;)
Flo 8)