Italian Trans Siberian

Flo
Traveller
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Hi!

Have a look here: https://www.fondazionefs.it/content/fondazionefs/en/itineraries.html?region=&train-type=&month=

Flo

Barrie
Traveller
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Thank you for that. It would appear from that I was mistaken about the Italian Trans Siberian running on 4/6.

Barrie
Traveller
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I realise you folk are raildudes but can anyone tell me if the bus from Sulmona to Isernia roughly follows the train line. I much prefer travelling by rail (this will be my 4th use of EU railways and I have tens of thousands of miles under my belt all over Schengen)) but if I have to go by bus I will. My plotted schedule has me in Pescara on 3 June.

MisterSteve
Traveller
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4th June is sort of on their list (without a booking link) https://www.latransiberianaditalia.com/viaggio-in-treno-storico-a-r/
there's an email address at the bottom, is that the one that fails?

There is a fairly frequent local bus on weekdays, I wouldn;t bet on it on Sundays. It's local route 2005 but the info system is rubbish! https://tua.mycicero.it/TPWebPortal/en the positive side is that it is cheap!!!

Barrie
Traveller
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Thanks. The info@ email fails. And that link is where I found 4 June. I use rome2rio to navigate around EU. They show the Flix bus as operating that day.

Flo
Traveller
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Dont use rome2rio or similar sites, instead use the websites of the actual carriers.

What Flixbus are we talking about? Is that the one you mentioned above from Sulmona to Isernia? I would assume that this runs on SS17 between Sulmona and Castel di Sangro, so not along the railway - check openrailwaymap or openstreetmap to see it in detail.

Interesting that there are apparently different operators on this old line offering tourist trains.
I wrote an email to info at ferroviadeiparchi.it

Barrie
Traveller
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Thanks Flo. I use rome2rio to navigate to see if what I'm trying to do is possible - I don't book anything if that's what you mean. The reason for getting the train is a follow up to a recent TV program and it's an area of Italy I haven't seen but if the train wasn't running I could at least pass through the area. I'm just looking not staying. I'll check my road map. That email address is the one I tried but as I noted my ISP says "invalid address" - I don't know why.

Barrie
Traveller
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Just to add. I'm also using Mike Ball's European Railway Atlas 20/21 to help guide me. My Road Atlas shows SS17 but not the railway neither does Mike in my edition.

Flo
Traveller
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I can only recommend to have a look at openrailwaymap.org ;⁠)

Also, I got a response from Ferrovia dei Parchi: the train on June 4 should be open for reservation from mid March.

I don't know how accurate and comprehensive the data that rome2rio (or similar sites) is using just be aware of that.

MisterSteve
Traveller
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Road2Ruin???? No wonder you get odd info! Flixbus is not a bus operator as defined in English:UK (as Microsoft would say). They operate long distance coaches and may not accept passengers on local journeys - if they turn up anywhere near on time. These international booking sites run by algorithms written by people who have probalbly enever used European public transport do not show local bus services that can't be prebooked. Google Maps makes a reasonable stab at finding local buses if you use the Directions function. In the case of this short journey it does warn that it doesn't have recent data but does give a fair idea.

Barrie
Traveller
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Thanks for the advice that 4 June may be booked mid March. Omio list a Flixbus ETD1510/ETA1539 Castel to Insernia.

Interestingly in the TV program I mentioned (Worlds most scenic railway journeys which is not that dated - maybe just pre-Covid) they changed trains at Castel di Sangro for a regular Trenitalia service to Isernia but I am not finding that service listed. Maybe it has been suspended